It was such a delight to interview journalist and novelist Flic Everett. I’ve been aware of her writing long before I even became a freelance journalist in 2004 but we’ve been online friends for a good while and was inspired by her move to Scotland when feeling scared about my own move to Ireland a few years later
In Late ADHD Diagnosis and Writing with Flic Everette: Episode 118 of the Soles to Soul Care for Trauma and AuDHD, Flic shares her love for pottering and decorating, charity shop treasures, reading, hot baths, walks in nature, yoga, why her Inner Teenager wouldn’t want her wisdom and advice and more.
Do you think your Inner Teenager would listen to you?
le grá (with love),
Ev3
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Introducing Flic Everett and finding your own version of self-care
03:30 From journalist to cosy crime novelist
09:32 Ideal self-care day of pottering, nature and simple pleasures
13:32 ADHD, creativity and the satisfaction of making things
15:46 Hot baths, thrillers and finding moments of calm
16:29 Nature, yoga and feeling part of something bigger
24:34 The importance of friendship and building community
31:06 Old friends, life lessons and being kinder to yourself
34:50 A grounding exercise to end the episode
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FULL TRANSCRIPT
I think really having no pressure for me is an ideal day. You know, it’s funny because my whole career is pressure. Yeah. Because I work best to deadlines, as most writers do.
But a day without them is a real joy and it’s so boring, but what I really love is having the time just to sort of pootle around and not do anything, not have to, you know, send emails or answer phone calls or any of that.
Welcome to episode 118 of the Soles to Soul Care for Trauma and AuDHD podcast. I’m your host, Eve Menezes Cunningham. And as you listen to today’s episode, my interview with author and journalist Flic Everett, I want you to think about yourself always. You know what’s right for you. You know yourself better than anyone else. But I think as I’ve expanded the kind of people I’m interviewing, it started out very much self-care professionals. But so many of my guests and I know how important reading is in my own life and writing. It’s lovely including more artistic people, more creatives, more activists, more writers. And I just love the variety of answers.
And I don’t want to give any spoiler alerts, but Flic’s episode is delightful. I really enjoy talking to her. But as you listen, ask yourself, what are you already doing that is good for you, that helps you connect with your Self, that helps you feel the joy of being alive and that feels good for you, but that you’re not necessarily valuing as self-care.
And maybe you think it should look a certain way or be a certain way, rather than going with what feels good. We’re wired to move towards what feels good and away from what doesn’t. I hope you enjoy the episode and let me know what you’re doing for yourself in the comments or email me and have a delightful week.
OK, so thank you so much Flic Everett for joining me. I’ve been aware of your work since I was a teenager probably, since early 20s. And we’ve been online friends for probably a decade or more. But you do amazing work and you’re newly diagnosed ADHD.
Yeah, thank you for having me as well. And I’m looking forward to talking about it all.
Yeah, and also you have now, as well as the journalism, you are a novelist. You’ve like, do you want to say a bit about how I’m expanding this out? So it’s not just therapists, not just neuroscientists, not just reading is such an important form of self-care for so many people.
Using our imaginations for good and you write cosy crime. But do you want to say a bit about how you got into it and what you’re working on at the moment and anything you want to plug?
Thank you. Thank you for asking.
Well, I have been writing novels for about five years now. And I got into it because I had a novel, a crime novel, that I’d written about 10 years ago. And I saw a call out on what was then Twitter, which I’ve now left.
Back then, I saw a call out from a digital first publisher saying, have you got a great idea? Have you got an existing manuscript? And I thought, well, A, I think so. And B, yes, I have. And I sent it off and the editor got straight back to me.
I really like this idea. You know, can you expand it? There was loads of editing to do. And eventually, I got a three book contract from them.
Yeah, I was so excited. This was for what was called the Edie York series about a young woman in World War II in Manchester called Edie York, who is an obituary writer on the newspaper. And she gets drawn into solving murder cases during the war.
Absolutely loved writing that. Great fun. Loads of historical research, you know.
And then I got asked to write a Christmas crime novel for Penguin PRH, which was amazing, obviously, like dream come true. And that was Murder at Mistletoe Manor. That came out last year.
And this year, I’m writing another. Well, I have written another one for them called Death on Holly Island. And I’m currently writing the next Christmas crime for 2027 for them.
So yeah, thank you. I’ve sort of found a niche in cosy mysteries. I mean, I don’t know about the word cosy, because my books aren’t really that cosy.
But as far as the genre goes, that’s what they’re called. You know, it’s a bunch of people trapped trying to discover who the killer is. So yes, they are, you know, cosy mysteries.
And I’m also writing a darker book for a different publisher that’s coming out next year as well. And I’m in the middle of edits for that at the moment, as well as doing all the normal. And I’m also like, as you’re saying that I’m thinking, I can’t wait until they get optioned and we get to see them.
Like tell me about it as well. Yeah, that would be great. And I’m also thinking you inspired me because you moved to Scotland from Manchester before I moved from Essex to Westport Ireland. And even though I didn’t really know you, I just knew you online. But like you and Natalie Trice moving to Devon, it was people moving. It’s encouraging, it’s inspiring you sharing your journey.
And thank you for that as well. Oh, that’s so kind of you. I mean, yes, I think sometimes we come to a tipping point, particularly as we enter midlife.
I think I was 44 when I moved and I met somebody. And my previous marriage was over and I just thought it’s now or never. My son was growing up and I’m so happy that I moved. I really, really am. I love Manchester. I go back all the time, but I love living in the West Highlands.
And it’s been the very best thing for me, I think. So yeah, there does come a point where you think if I carry on, it will be like this forever, but I could change everything. And I think all of us did that, didn’t we? You did that too.
There does come a sort of moment in life where you think I’ve still got, hopefully, you know, I’ve still got a lot of years to live. Is this how I want to live them? And if the answer’s no, it’s time to make a change. Absolutely.
So people online, not in Scotland or in Manchester, but where would you like people to look for you online? Well, I don’t have a website, mainly because I’m technically inept and I can’t manage one. But I do have an Instagram, which is f.l.everett_author. And I’m also on Facebook as Flic Louise Everett.
You can find me there if you need me. And your books in bookshops and libraries. They’re on the big, horrible site that we can’t name.
So with the self-care framework I use, so the FEEL. bit, it’s FEEL. LOVE. HEAL. The FEEL. is what we might typically think of as like self-care, the stuff we do to help us feel better, the regulatory things, when we have the bandwidth. Then the LOVE. bit is more like working with the love archetype where we don’t need to change a thing about ourselves.
We’re already lovable. We’re already worthy. We’re not too much.
We are enough. We’re part of the divine, part of nature. And I ask about like how you get into that state because that can feel harder.
I know it’s the bit I struggle with most. It’s easier. I’m going to go for a swim.
That will help me feel better. And then the HEAL. part is the turning what turns your heart. Turning what hurts your heart into action.
So the kind of community care, especially with what’s going on in the world at the moment, people needing community, people needing safety. Who holds you? How do you feel that? And like you hold that for so many people with your writing. I ask about ideals, care and actual, like if you could only do one thing.
I’m saying all of this in one go, but I’m going to ask separately. When it comes to the more regulatory, like you’re thinking to yourself in an ideal world, what self-care practices, including reading, or like whatever it is, if you could design your day as you would love it for yourself, what would that include?
Oh, great. So that’s a bit of a like starting with the morning and like what? So my ideal day would be, I’d probably be in Scotland. My family from Manchester would be staying nearby so I could see them or my son might be staying in my cottage as well because I always love when he stays nearby and I know he’s OK and we can hang out together. I think, you know, see the dogs. The dogs always jump on the bed in the morning and that’s a really lovely thing.
And I think really having no pressure for me is an ideal day. You know, it’s funny because my whole career is pressure. Yeah. Because I work best to deadlines as most writers do. But a day without them is a real joy and it’s so boring. But what I really love is having the time just to sort of pootle around and not do anything, not have to, you know, send emails or answer phone calls or any of that.
I just want to be able to go for a walk because we live by a beautiful loch. It’s called Loch Awe, the clue’s in the name. And I like to, I can see it out of the window actually, as I’m talking to you, it’s right outside the window.
I like to walk down there, you know, contemplate the mountains, Ben Cruachan at the end of the loch, it’s beautiful. Obviously, I’m assuming this ideal day is a sunny day because it’s sunny with a light breeze so there’s no midges. And then I would probably meet a friend for lunch.
It’s always fun. I love to do lunch because, you know, I still like going out in the evening sometimes. But I think as I’m getting a bit older, lunch is such a nice thing to do.
And you don’t feel like, oh, I’ve got to get back before bedtime and the dogs need to be put to bed and all of the things you have to do as a middle-aged person when you go to bed. I just think lunch, great. And then you can go to the shops or whatever afterwards.
And I do like a look around the local charity shops. That is my favourite thing to do. I’m a very cheap date, but I love rummaging.
I used to run a vintage shop in Manchester and I still have those jeans that say something amazing. You know, it’s like a treasure hunt every week. You never know what you’ll find.
And I love vintage china and interesting clothes. And I look at old pictures and think, would they look nice in my living room? So I think I love it because I think charity shop rummaging is a bit like going to the top of the Magic Faraway Tree. You never know what land will be at the top.
Sometimes it’s a disappointing land and you don’t find anything decent, but you find a book you want to read for 50p or a CD that you’ve forgotten about. So I love that. And then I’d probably just hang out with my husband, Andy, because I really like him.
We get on very well. And we’d probably just watch a great Netflix drama and have a lovely dinner. So I don’t ask for a huge amount.
I’m not like, oh, fly me to Paris, take me to Dubai. I just love a day of pottering with no pressure, basically and enough money to buy little trinkets if I find anything that I like the look of. And you share some of your treasures.
I went to see The Magic Faraway Tree the other day. It is that lovely. But some of your posts, and also when you say pottering around, and I realise everyone, we have our days where we can’t do anything, but you seem to have extremely productive days where you talked about baking a wedding cake at the last minute for someone today.
You redecorate it so much. You show pictures of what I’m imagining your pottering and my pottering are very different. I mean, this is a really good point.
And this isn’t because I’m amazing or have tonnes and tonnes of energy. It’s just because I really fear boredom. And I think this is an ADHD thing for sure.
I’m at my most happy and relaxed when I’m doing something. Not exercise. I don’t love exercise at all.
I really actually quite actively dislike most exercise. But if it’s something that I can do with my hands, if it’s something like decorating or sanding a piece of furniture or baking a cake, I feel very calm and at peace when I’m doing those things. Because I think because a lot of my job is sort of quite vague and nebulous.
It’s making stuff up or it’s trying to find people to interview about something. And I think a project where you can see a beginning, a middle and an end very easily in the course of a day is a real joy to me. I get that satisfaction of I’ve done this thing.
I’ve baked this cake. You know, I’ve painted this table. It looks so much better.
I’m addicted to those furniture flip videos on Instagram where people take a knackered old piece of furniture and make it look amazing. You know, they speed it up. And then I have to remember, actually, this took four weeks.
Yeah, yeah. But I think for me, seeing your stuff, there’s such a gulf between what I imagine I’m going to do and the reality. Because I don’t have the patience to do the sanding and the proper prep.
I’m too impulsive. And it’s like, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I’m the same though.
I know, I mean, obviously we all post the best bits, don’t we? I think I’m just lying around procrastinating and not doing anything or feeling annoyed with myself and not getting on with stuff, you know? So I think I just post things on social media because I’m proud that I actually finished something or did something. But you don’t see all the days and all the hours when I don’t do the thing. And I’m just, you know, mooching about feeling hopeless.
And I was going to say, like, so you’ve talked about your ideal day. If you were ill or if you were travelling or if you could only do one thing, like to look after yourself, to help yourself feel better, what would that be in any given day? Oh, I know the answer to this. I always, always have to have a very hot bath in the day.
I always have to read in the bath. I like to read a brand new, really great thriller. Nothing makes me happier than getting into a very hot bath with a new thriller by an author that I know I love.
It’s just a joy. I love it. Yeah, and it’s even better if nobody’s going to knock on the bathroom door and go, have you finished? You know, I just give me as much time as I need to be in the bath slowly, you know, with a new Jewell or Andrea Mara or, you know, a great thriller writer that I know will take me away somewhere else.
It makes me so happy.
Wonderful. And moving to the LOVE. part, what helps you remember that you’re worthy, lovable, not too much, enough, part of the divine, part of nature? Do you do anything to get you into that kind of heart space, head space, or where do you feel it? I think as, well, I mean, I’m not going to harp on too much about ADHD because I think nearly all midlife women that I know feel unloveable and difficult and hard work, especially when menopause strikes.
You know, all of us have the capacity to feel a lack of confidence and a worry about how difficult and, you know, hard to live with we can be. And when I do feel like that, which is quite often, I love going for walks. I really do because I live in such a beautiful place.
You know, like I say, the weather can be very unpredictable. And sometimes I will admit I do not go for a walk because it’s pouring and I can’t bear the idea of being freezing and wet. But when it’s not, it is just very, very restorative and beautiful and I always feel better, always.
And it’s such a cliche, isn’t it? I’m going for a walk and you feel better. But I actually do. I actually do.
Because, you know, it just fills your eyes with beautiful things. And that’s what matters. You know, you must stop thinking about yourself and you start thinking, oh, I haven’t seen that flower before.
Oh, it’s beautiful. And your life is suddenly put into perspective and you think, well, nature is so huge and so dramatic and so amazing. It’s amazing that it stops you obsessing about your own problems.
The other thing that I do is I go to yoga as regularly as I can, which isn’t always that regularly, as my lovely, lovely yoga teacher and friend Lisa will attest. But when we do go, I usually go with Andy as well because we both love going. Lovely.
Just a little pocket of time where you don’t think about anything, you know, just do what Lisa tells you to do. She’s a fantastic yoga teacher and everybody’s doing it together and it’s so peaceful and she plays great music and I do absolutely love going. But sometimes, you know, I’ve got a deadline or I’m away or someone’s coming to stay and I don’t get to go and then I do feel the lack of it.
When I haven’t been for a while, you know, yeah. So those are the two things that kind of, I suppose, centre me and make me feel less in myself and more part of something bigger and better. I love that.
So I don’t even need to ask about the actual because it is there. And I’m thinking, I know, like, I live in like beautiful West of Ireland and sometimes it’s like, oh, I don’t want to go out for a walk or a bike ride. Oh, you can’t make me, the PDA, pathological demand avoidance.
And as soon as I’m on the driveway, looking up at the Reek, if you can see it, if it’s not too rainy, it’s like, why would I resist this? I already feel whole. I feel healed.
But thinking even like, when you say about like the changing of a flower, like you’re really lucky. I’m really lucky with where we live. But anyone, anywhere can look at a flower or look at just remembering we are tiny.
Oh, yeah. I mean, when I lived in Manchester, I lived in the suburbs, you know, it was built up. So it was a Sainsbury’s around the corner.
You know, it was not like an idyll of nature, but if walks along the River Mersey at the weekends, not every day, probably like I do now, but I would go for a long walk and you can still see nature, you know. And I don’t want to be sort of suggesting that everybody has access to nature because sadly I very much know that everybody does not. And sometimes you can’t afford the transport to get there or whatever.
But for a lot of people, it is possible to access nature, even if it’s, you know, just plants in pots or, you know, your neighbour’s garden or whatever. And I think you can do that sort of micro looking at flowers and plants. And I recently bought a microscope, which I’m really excited to use because I want to know what’s going on in plants and grass, you know, all of those things.
I had one when I was a kid and I loved it. Forgot all about it. And then I saw one in a charity shop.
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I can look at the leaves that I find beautiful, you know, and I think things like that, you don’t need a lot of it to be able to really look at it and see it, you know, and feel pleased by it, I suppose. Like when I’m in Manchester, there’s a lovely little park that I go to walk in quite near my parents’ house. And it’s so pretty.
And, you know, the flowers change with the seasons as people with their dogs. And I just think being outside and looking at plants and flowers and trees is everything really when you’re stressed. It’s the very best way to gain a sense of perspective.
And the act of walking as well, just walking along helps you process as well. Absolutely. So moving to the HEAL. part, you’ve already spoken so much about community from your dogs to your husband, to your friends.
I’m also thinking, you know, Julia Cameron, with The Artist’s Way and the artist dates, it sounds like you build that into your life with the charity shops, with the nature, it sounds like that is very holding for you as well. And in an ideal world, like you’ve already said so much, but what communities nourish you? And you’ve also just set up a community online, haven’t you? Which is fantastic. Yes, Female Freelance Society.
Freelance female writers. FFS, I love it. FFS, that’s a good name.
Because, yeah, things like that are so important. I mean, I set huge store by my friendships. I’m an only child, right? So I grew up without anyone my age in my house.
I didn’t have cousins my age. So friendships were always everything to me from a very early age. You know, men and women, I suppose as I’ve got older, it’s tended more towards female friendships.
I used to have a sort of equal mix, but I think you really start to be drawn to other women who are going through what you’re going through in midlife to some extent. And that’s no diss to my wonderful male friends but I think only other women sometimes understand, you know, things like menopause, things like, you know, lack of confidence maybe and all of that. So I think my female friendships are so crucial to me.
One of my best friends is a psychotherapist and obviously she can’t therapise me because that would be unethical and wrong. And besides which, why would she? It’s her job. But she has taught me some very important concepts and ideas over the years that I’ve been able to use in my own life.
And I think I listen to her, so it’s a sort of quid pro quo. But as well as my real life friendships, I’ve always very much relied on online friendships too, particularly since moving to Scotland. And when people say, oh, it’s online, it’s not real life, you know, you don’t know these people.
I think, well, that is entirely wrong. I’ve got a friend who used to be a journalist, I met online, who’s currently very ill. And, you know, I’ve been to see her and we talk every single day and I send her gifts and we chat and, you know, we vent to one another because she’s great for me as well.
I’m not just, you know, looking after this woman because I’m wonderful. She gives me probably more than I give her. So she’s one of my best friends and we’ve literally met in person twice.
It doesn’t matter because we have a rapport and we get on and we get each other. And I think there’s so much belittling of online and there are so many problems with it. Of course, there are.
I hate the tech bros. I hate the billionaires like we all do. But at the same time, I am so bloody grateful for Facebook and Messenger and Threads.
And old Twitter before it got evil.
Oh my God. Old Twitter was amazing.
Yeah, exactly. Because I have truly met some great friends through those apps. And, you know, they’re still great friends and we’ve met and we’ve stayed with one another.
And I just, it’s not that different. If you’re dating people you meet on Tinder or Hinge, why can’t you make great friends through social media? You know, I believe fully that you can and rapport is rapport wherever you meet. You know, so that for me is a massive community, yeah.
And I do sometimes start up groups because I think it’s great to have that space, especially when you work alone and you work freelance because you can go days without seeing anyone. Whereas a group like FFS, it brings together all of the great women who are working in freelance journalism, you know, or who are writers. And naturally we have things in common, we get on, you know, generally speaking.
So I think platforms like that really help us to feel less alone, I guess. And in terms of local community, you know, I met tonnes of new friends through the yoga classes I was just telling you. Wonderful, yeah.
Yeah, and that was kind of just an organic growth of getting to know someone through the classes each week, then we’d make friends. And then a few months ago, I did some creative writing classes at the local village hall, met some lovely friends through that, you know. And I think people introduce people, when you live in the country, I don’t know if you find this, but people are very good at introducing you to new people who’ve just arrived in the area or neighbours, or I think quite a strong sense of community anyway in small rural places like where I live.
So that’s lovely. So yeah, it’s like you say, community is very important to me and it always has been. So I kind of sort it out wherever I’ve been.
Yeah, we had Mark Carney village, Mark Carney, the Canadian prime minister, visit the village yesterday because his grandparents were from, so it’s four and a half kilometres outside of Westport in Aughagower, but his grandparents emigrated to Canada over a hundred years ago. And it was just amazing because when I moved here, like I live in heaven, I’ve been so welcomed and it always astonishes me, like I’m an immigrant, but I’ve been really welcomed. It was amazing.
It was just such a gorgeous day and what they’d done with the village itself before I could drive. That’s another thing we have in common. You learned to drive late.
You were an inspiration there as well, but I couldn’t cycle. Sorry, I’ve got cat hair because Meadbh was very… It’s an uphill cycle to the village and it’s more flat into Westport. So I was thinking yesterday about how now I can drive and I do want to get more involved in, even though Westport’s a gorgeously small town and I’m involved there, it’s just there’s something extra special about the tiny village and it was just so joyful.
I don’t want to, I always feel evil saying like about the one thing, like the, but what one community would you say as, and you could say, I don’t want to do it because it feels evil, but what is the most important community there for you?
Oh, I suppose in some ways it’s true. I mean, I adore my new friends. They’re all wonderful and I love them to pieces, but I would say there’s some truth in the saying, there’s no friend like an old friend, isn’t there? People who’ve known you from youth, who’ve seen you through all your iterations, all your changes.
So I suppose one of my very closest friends, she’s also called Eve actually, we met when we were 12 at school and we’re still incredibly close. We’ve been through everything together and I suppose my little community of very old friends back in Manchester, they still come and stay and I still go and see them and they mean the world to me and that is not to say that newer friends don’t. It’s basically though, I think when you have someone who’s known you as a sort of awful 14 year old and they’ve also known you as a 54 year old, that is quite special. Amazingly, they’re still there wanting to be your friend and that is incredible.
So that leads me on to my last question about if you could go back in time to younger you, maybe as an awful 14 year old, maybe any other time, what love, what wisdom, what compassion would you like to share with yourself?
Yeah, it’s such an interesting question because people sometimes ask this on Threads or social media, what would you tell your 16 year old self or whatever? And I always think, well, whatever I told myself, I would not have listened and I think that the journey is the journey. You know, I sort of am reluctant to give my younger self advice because if I hadn’t done all the things I’ve done, I wouldn’t be here.
You know, I couldn’t say don’t get pregnant accidentally or you know, don’t balls up your Oxford interview by getting drunk the night before or any of the things that I did because they’ve all led me here in different ways. So I know that’s a massive cop out. No, it’s not.
Not at all. I suppose if I was going to say anything, it would be to be less hard on myself, you know, to understand that my brain maybe didn’t work quite like other people’s brains and to not beat myself up quite so much about it over the years when I didn’t know why that was. But again, if I had known, things would have been different.
I would have had a less rackety, less interesting, in some ways, less fun life, I think. You know, there’s a lot of things I wish I hadn’t done, but they are all, it sounds really, you know, ridiculous, but I think they’ve all made me realise things or helped me learn things or made me realise I should never do that again. You know, so I think now I was all right.
You know, I was weird and difficult and a bit bad tempered and a bit, you know, all over myself, but I was all right and, you know, I got myself to here, so I must have done something that was okay. Wonderful. And I think just even recognising that, and I love that, of course, our 16-year-old selves wouldn’t believe us or listen, but yeah, it’s been, as expected, a joy talking to you.
Thank you so much. And there’ll be links in the show notes to all of your books and your Instagram. And do you want to mention Lisa’s yoga class in case there are high expectations or benefit? Lisa – Yeah, she teaches on Thursdays and Sundays at Craignish Village Hall, and she is the best teacher ever.
So if you’re nearby, you can come. Ah, absolute pleasure talking to you. Thanks again.
Thanks so much for having me. It’s been great. Thanks for listening to this episode.
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It might be as a result of listening to the episode, it might be something else, it might be a nap, it might be something to eat, it might be some kind of movement, but let yourself ground, let yourself get into the habit of connecting with your inner wisdom and notice what you need and give yourself what you need.
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